It was love for this model which catalysed my starting to collect daemons it won't come as a great shock he is my counts as Bloodthirster, despite the ludicrous size and consequently I put a lot of time and effort Into getting him right. A pleasant side effect of which is that it seems to have shaken something loose in my style, and has been a real watershed point in terms of the final quality of what I've been producing.
Just in time to tackle my Fomoraic this year! As we said last week, this project is nearing completion - in terms of sculpts, anyway - so it is likely that from now on there won't be too much in the way of work in progress images here; but there'll still be other information to peruse, of course, not least project fulfilment and the QuickStarter rules and profiles, so every update will still be worth a read. Keep checking back every Friday, in other words!
But don't take our word for it - have a look at this It won't make any difference to the way Angelcynn hosts are built right now, of course, and there will always be an option to ride a Great Hart in the Miercna muster. Leofwen's on her way to us and we should see the first casts next week, and sendings of the week after. Now that he's managed to put the claws on his left paw where they should be, this is how he will look They do have spikes, honest.
A word of warning though: we've had to take drastic steps to protect the innocent with Timoth's head Spoiler :. Reply by: Trodax - click to view full reply. Given the sentiments posted here and previously, I think most gamers will prefer the nub version for their tables, but if they offer both options then everybody wins.
Update 50 Jan 31 Winding Up 2 comments 5 likes By crikey things are moving on this project now! As well as all of that, we have painted Malacant images, news of project fulfilment and more information on the next Kickstarter project.
In short, it's a massive update! Ciniod's almost complete, as you can see Again, Ciniod should be finished fairly soon but he will ship in June with other Wave 1 items. Itaina, Umaer of Dun Durn This lady is looking great so far - and very warlike! Again, Itaina should be finished fairly soon but she will ship in June with other Wave 1 items. Domnech, Sagart of Dun Durn Olivier's really got the character we wanted for Domnech, as you can see!
A wizened creature that probably shouts tramp words as he casts spells Again, Domnech should be finished fairly soon but he will ship in June with other Wave 1 items. Uhtred Uhtredson Uhtred is, of course, Patrick Masson's first work for us but already we wish we'd been using his talents years ago.
Uhtred looks bloody brilliant! His cloak and shield are missing as of yet, but it shouldn't be too long before Uhtred's finished. Remember, too, that Uhtred is ONLY available through this Kickstarter project although we do reserve the right to sell him at shows and other events and ONLY if you purchase the rulebook; he'll never be a full release.
So get him while you can! It's early days yet, but you can see his progress already There's not much to see as yet, but Crom should be finished in the middle of February we think. Brugg, Death-Brute Olivier Bouchet has now finished Brugg and his massive weapon, and he's looking blimmin' awesome. We're very happy that Olivier will be working with us in the future, for whilst he's currently a part-time sculptor his skills are not to be passed up!
Darklands: First Edition Fulfilment We are now shipping Wave 0 orders to backers from this project, but we would ask all of you to remain patient while we do so. We are only a small team and are still fulfilling the remaining orders for Darklands: a World of War, and we do expect to continue fulfilling Wave 0 orders throughout February and possibly later. Olivier Bouchet: Brugg is finished, and that concludes Olivier's work for us in this project. He'll be working with us on our next project, however Daniel Cockersell: the Daddy of all monster sculptors, Dan has begun work on Scecchus, but it will be a while before he is done.
Yannick Fusier: It's been a while since we worked with Yannick he who sculpted Shaaroc a couple of years ago , but he's now doing Bagseg for us and will start him next week, and WIPs should follow the week after. Once they're done he will digitally sculpt Hanokh and Thoth. The provisional start date of this project will be Monday the 24th of March, and it should end thirty days later on Wednesday the 23rd of April. This neatly avoids Salute the weekend before 12th of April , at which we will have a stall, and is just after the easter holidays.
We'll be running it for the full thirty days this time, too! We'll allow people to purchase both the Darklands rulebook with Uhtred and Finnan , the Concept Art book and possibly a couple of other rewards from the First Edition project, but the whole thing will be a lot easier to grasp this time - there'll be no "hosts" or "starter sets" or anything like that, because they become incredibly complicated over time and are a nightmare post-Kickstarter.
Don't recoil in horror, however - we've hit upon a system that will replicate the discounts you get but also enables you to choose what freebies you'd like with what you purchase. We've not decided on everything though so please don't ask for specifics yet! That will come in time, there's six updates to go before the project begins. There'll be another update next week If anyone wants to put in a last minute order I would love to add an Angrislaug.
Shoot me a PM please, and thank you. Proper wild Northmen look. Really tempted now. Reply by: grefven - click to view full reply.
Love the entire range. I thought I could resist adding in another faction, but they are tempting. Especially when you factor in that they'll be getting R ackham inspired Sons of Ogmios looking figures, as well as 'true' Ogres?!? Realised earlier I get my annual bonus paid half way through the KS Friday Mierce days.
Best part of my morning routine on Friday! Besides being rid of my students for the first hour or so of the day, so I can leisurely read Dakka and grade papers while I sip my coffee. So if March is the official time frame for KS2. Hoping to see those lizard troops for the Khthon! Reply by: Makaleth - click to view full reply. It really makes him look so much more imposing, At first he's just a giant angry monster, now he's that, with a huge 'Drucwurst'! Although, I think Kingdom death is still the most 'edgy'.
I think Meirce does a great job of making characters so realistic, it's not as surprising that a big naked thing has it's 'parts' showing. But to each his own. As long as they supply an alternate way to build it, I don't mind chucking that bit at all. I'm just glad they didn't choose that route for the Blood Maw which I have two of Giant fantasy miniature with a mouth half the size of its body So yeah, glad they didn't go the "swinging" route for that model, and are supplying an alternate bit for this one.
Very very few animals do that, but I have noticed it seems standard on all your designs, even the Dragon. When you see someone walking on their knuckles you can bet its a DL figure. The Canadian dollar is weak as piss right now, which isn't helping. Anyone have any sober second thoughts on the Nobles pledge level? I'm leaning more and more towards focusing my money on factions, but it's still tempting, because insanity. That assumes you want to deal with shipping from Canada.
Thanks everyone! Sorry for the delay; I was being distracted assembling Angrislaug and forgot to post on here. Highlight so far is watching my 2-year-old daughter dancing to Bruno Mars. It's been half my life since I enjoyed a Super Bowl. In laws and the wife are in blue and orange though. She chose to follow Denver, as they honeymooned in the Rockies, her fella follows the Steelers because his family name is Steel. I have no such connections, so rather arbitrarily picked The Seahawks.
She's gone to bed. Some lovely Welsh names there! I was half expecting to see a large Gwyfern soaring overhead. Comment 3 likes Today, Mierceday, we have yet more work in progress images of miniatures for you all, as well as news of project fulfilment and the next project. Without further ado Uhtred Uhtredson Patrick Masson has completed Uhtred, and we absolutely love him to bits. What a miniature! Here's a scale shot too, of Uhtred next to Hedroc!
As you can see, he's a big lad is our Uhtred! We should have Uhtred in our smelly mitts next week, although he won't be sent until the first wave goes out, of course. So get him while you can We just hope John Longshore is happy with the results! It shouldn't be too long before Juan has finished Danilo, and then it's onto Urien for the Brythoniaid. We've had both Uhtred and Danilo sculpted early, of course, thanks to how popular they are; Uhtred was tied to the Darklands: First Edition rulebook as was Finnan and Danilo to the Sweet Spot reward, so it makes sense to get these done early.
It's only been a week since we saw the first WIPs! Mind you, he has got a lot to do for us! It shouldn't be too long before Crom's done, and then it's Leofwen on foot for him We are only a small team and are still fulfilling the remaining orders for Darklands: a World of War, and we do expect to continue fulfilling Wave 0 orders throughout February and probably later.
Please bear in mind that this list may change over time, so don't take it as set in stone until the first work in progress shots appear; a good example of that is Maxime Penaud, who has decided not to work with us due to time constraints - which is completely understandable, as he does not sculpt for a living, he has a real job. Roberto Chaudon: he's finished the top secret project, details of which will be unveiled next week, and Roberto will then give Belech his guitar and afterwards begin work on this project.
Thomas David: work on Timoth has begun, but we only have an armature so there's not a great deal to see. Yannick Fusier: the first images of Bagseg in progress have arrived but there's not a lot to see as yet; we should have something in the next couple of weeks.
Gauthier Giroud: work on Idruaada has begun, but again it's just an armature really - we may have more images next week though! Valentin Zak: lValentin will sculpt Broga for us and will begin doing so soon. The definite barring a zombie apocalypse start date of this project will be Monday the 24th of March, and it should end thirty days later on Wednesday the 23rd of April. To whet your appetite, here's a concept of a miniature that we hope we'll get to during the course of the next project That doesn't mean we don't have anything to talk about, though, because we have the usual news about project fulfilment as well as new versions of most of the existing warrior profiles.
We also have more news on the printing of the QuickStarter rulebook and the templates, so it's still worth a read! Darklands: a World of War Fulfilment Shipment of remaining items from Darklands: a World of War orders has begun, as some of you have seen, and where this is possible we'll also combine these remaining items with Wave 0 orders for First Edition items from the Darklands: First Edition kickstarter project.
Qaano's begun shipping, too, along with Belech, although the latter's base which will be 80mm will be sent later when we receive them. The first casts of Kernuor, Seer-Drune on Karnun-Beast should be sent next week as he's proved quite difficult to sort out for moulding. They'll be worth the wait, however - they're fantastic miniatures all!
Whilst this may mean a delay for you, it makes sense for us to save money on postage in this way. Obviously, if you're not waiting on any of those, your orders should ship soon. We are getting there! He's not started them yet but we should see the first images very soon. Once the QuickStarter rules are printed we're looking at some time in February , they will of course be sent out to you along with the remainder of your order.
Note that the Fomoraic and Angelcynn have had a few slight adjustments made to them, so please check them out. Albainn Muster v1. It's worth noting again one major change from previous versions - gold costs. This does mean that, at the moment, these musters will not play correctly with the Khthones and Sell-Swords, but they should be available for you next week.
There's also a handy pronunciation guide based on the Wikipedia Pronunciation Respelling Key under the warrior's title and, at the bottom of each profile, a suggestion on which miniature from our range to use as that warrior on the battlefield. With just two musters to update, it won't be long before we can give you musters that include all of the miniatures that exist, found in this project or found in Darklands: First Edition! If there's anything you need to know before the other warrior profiles are sorted, or about how the new format of warrior profile works, just ask on the forums please and we'll endeavour to answer your questions.
Templates All of the templates required for existing miniatures and those from this project will be available very shortly indeed - we have the first samples albeit in incorrect colours and should be able to show you pictures of the finished templates in a couple of weeks' time. We're on course to have them done by the end of February if not before, so expect them to be a March release.
Remember, if you've ordered a Dyndraig Starter Set from this project, you'll get a 4" Fire Spray Template sent to you! Images soon! A somewhat yucky treat for you foilks of Dakka. I tried taking a crappy picture of my crappy paint job of Hirakoth of the Khthon after being goaded into it a week or so ago. He needs some spots fixed up, the ink I was playing with splotched up on him, and the picture quality sucks, but as far as I know it's just about the only picture of him built and sloppily painted out there in the wild.
There's barely ANY painted snakes out there! I'll try to take a better lighted one later on. I've got a few more Darklands pieces I can post if mister three heads doesn't make your eyes bleed too much. I still love how this guys coils are just all over the place on his base.
I really wish Ssybrios had followed suit instead of having such a short and truncated bottom half. I'm going to be on the hunt for Petroyos and Qaano as they start shipping out. To be honest, my Khthones have been sitting in their bag since they got here, because I've been busy with other stuff. Some of that stuff, when spotted in the wild, might look like:.
Proteanc, Fickle Lord of Uroboros: Wow! Reply by: Denilsta - click to view full reply. Does anyone want to buy my Hrudinn? He was always going to be a counts as LoC , and this fella will do much better as that. In other news, my Angryslag arrived today!
Big dragon. Big, big dragon So probably not an actual release? I don't think I own any feathered models either I must have this model. This completely changes that, and is a must buy! Mierce, when is this going to be released? Pleased with the crispness and no warping but I did have a lot of flash and a couple of mold lines. Nothing I could fix very quickly. Picture is of them assembled but prior tidy up with greenstuff. Reply by: Bolognesus - click to view full reply. Between bits naturally adding up to a fair bit more than the price of buying the entire kit, and the resale value of a still unbuilt Hrudinn, I don't think that's even a remotely viable option.
Reply by: skarsol - click to view full reply. He's shorthanding "Anal Retentive Opposition" - the types who might object to cool 'counts as' models for any number or potentially nitpicky reasons. Is everyone planning to give the game a try at least? Not sure it's for me. Reply by: cygnnus - click to view full reply. Dark Lands and Bane Beasts We're scaling back the releases from our Darklands: A World of War Kickstarter project this month - with just the four miniatures unveiled, for the Angelcynn, Fomoraic and Khthones - but to compensate for that, we've got the first BaneBeast for a long while to tickle your fancies!
Back to now: just like the last few months, thanks to us being busier than busy bees we've just not had the time to get the release art and descriptions done; but you can still see some good images of each miniature on the website of course.
Cuthwulf, Duguth Warrior The fifth and thus last miniature of the five-man Duguth with spears unit, Cuthwulf may only be a warrior but he's a cracking miniature for all that. Vaak is a Moraine Beast, a creature of ice and rock moulded by Baalor's warlocks, the better to destroy his enemies whilst throwing great chunks of ice at them. With a concept drawn by Stefan Kopinski and a sculpt by Roberto Chaudon, Vaak may look a bit odd but that's because he's totally unnatural.
Proteanc, Fickle Lord of Uroboros Speaking of long whiles, it's been almost a year since the last BaneBeast, N'nhohbr'hoth pronounced 'nob-rot' , so we thought we'd better release something for the BaneLegions range.
The addition of Hrudinn to Darklands gave us a bit of an idea, so we gave Roberto Chaudon the sculptor of Hrudinn of course to turn a raven-giant into a Phoenix Lord. The results, we think, are simply spectacular All of the releases above will be officially released on the 1st of March , but you can pre-order them now from this very website to your heart's content!
Next month will definitely see the release of our incredible dragon, Angrislaug, and the frankly sublime Champion of Dis, Malacant, as well as three other miniatures Ciniod, Umaer of Dun Durn Olivier Nkweti's work on the first Albainn warchiefs is about done, so we should have them soon. We think you'll agree with us that Ciniod, Itaina and Domnech are masterful! Ciniod should be with us by the end of February, but won't be sent out until Wave 1 in June.
Itaina, Umaer of Dun Durn Itaina's about finished too and she's looking great! Again, Itaina should be with us by the end of February, but won't be sent out until Wave 1 in June. Domnech, Sagart of Dun Durn The old tramp is about complete, too! Domnech should be with us by the end of February, but won't be sent out until Wave 1 in June. A very unexpected development but no less welcome for all that.
Here's the first WIPs! Once again, Urien should be with us by the end of February, but won't be sent out until Wave 1 in June. Once again, Ieuan Longshore and Taranau should be with soon, but won't be sent out until Wave 1 in June. As you can see, there's a way to go yet! We reckon Erebius will be done sometime in March, but of course he won't be sent until June.
Danilo Cruz, Beast-Slayer of Cantabria Danilo is really pushing on now, and it shouldn't be too long before he's finished we think.
He's looking great! Again, we reckon Danilo Cruz will be done sometime in February, but of course he won't be sent until June. He's absolutely superb! We should receive Crom shortly of course, but it won't be until June that we send him. Trytheorn, Geat Warrior Descendant We have some exciting news for you: Trytheorn, Tomas Johansson's Geat Warrior descendant, is currently being drawn up by Danny Cruz and we should have the concept art for you next Friday.
We actually have the artwork, but we need to ensure that Tomas is happy with Danny's work and if he is, we can both unveil him to you all and allow him to be purchased from the webstore next week! The reason for this is twofold. Firstly, we have decided to release encounter hosts for each kindred soon, and thus keeping the old ones will cause confusion for you guys.
Secondly, the structure of the next project KS2. There are some good news, though, because certain encounter hosts can now be dispatched to you as part of your Wave 0 order. So, if you really do want any of those hosts, or indeed The Sweet Spot reward, you'd better get them quickly! Note that the Fomoraic and Angelcynn have had a few slight adjustments made to them as well as including new profiles for the miniatures from Darklands: First Edition and bear in mind that these new profiles are only partially playtested, so expect changes and feel free to give us feedback on the Mierce forums , so check them out for some awesome new warriors!
No doubt there'll be a few errors or typos - feel free to tell us about them! With some musters already including new warrior profiles, it won't be long before we can give you musters for every kindred that include all of the miniatures that exist, found in this project or found in Darklands: First Edition! We are only a small team and are still fulfilling the remaining orders for Darklands: a World of War, and we do expect to continue fulfilling Wave 0 orders throughout February and no doubt later.
Please bear in mind that this list may change over time, so don't take it as set in stone until the first work in progress shots appear. Valentin Zak: Valentin will sculpt Broga for us and will begin doing so soon. Whilst the dates for the next project lie before Darklands: First Edition begins to be fulfilled, there'll be no conflict between the two because the next project simply adds to this project, and adds units mostly, too.
Many of the early goals will be able to be shipped with earlier Waves, too! We've not decided on everything - so please don't ask for specifics yet!
That will come in time, there's five more updates to go before the project begins. Comment 6 likes Once again, we don't have any miniatures to show you this Friday - but once again, that doesn't mean we don't have anything to talk about! We have the usual news about project fulfilment, remaining sculpts and so on, but we also have all of the warrior profiles in the new format available to download - as well as two with profiles for miniatures produced by the Darklands: First Edition project - so it's well worth having a good read of those, especially if you're playing Darklands!
Darklands: a World of War Fulfilment Shipment of remaining items from Darklands: a World of War orders is cracking on and where this is possible we'll also combine these remaining items with Wave 0 orders for First Edition items from the Darklands: First Edition kickstarter project.
We now have the 80mm bases so can ship Belech with them and we're shipping 80mm bases to those people that have a Belech without one. We humbly ask that you remain patient - we're casting as fast as we can! He's started them and we've seen armatures but there's nothing really to see yet; we should possibly have images for you next week.
One major change will be the Ubiquity limits for Uncommon warriors, which will increase slightly. Muster Rules are living rules and are download only of course, so we'll give you links when they're ready. Templates All of the templates required for existing miniatures and those from this project will be available very shortly indeed - we have the first samples albeit in incorrect colours and should be able to show you pictures of the finished templates shortly.
That's before my next pay cheque so no chance of picking up what I had been planning for based on the Wave 1 shipping date. I had just worked out my order as well. Oh well, makes it easier to keep my spending under control. I actually have an email from Mierce somewhere in which they explicitly confirmed those would be available until june-ish.
Not sure if this is reason to buy quickly could get the sweet spot I really want monday afternoon, or perhaps just the sronax host Not sure though, but hopefully that's the case So that's why we're removing them. I wouldn't worry about it too much in terms of getting a discount, and our back catalogue will also feature a discount again; if you back KS2. Hope that helps. Time to see if I can get some stuff on ebay before the 24th! The More You Know, and all that! How awesome is that?
Belech the Axeman Ahhh here we go. We expect these to be done by the end of March, but this could easily slip. We'll keep you informed, as always. Once the QuickStarter rules are printed we're looking at some time in March now , they will of course be sent out to you along with the remainder of your order. Muster Rules The new, updated Muster Rules are now available for download.
You can download them here: Darklands Muster Rules v2. Ubiquity Limits: these have changed to include Encounter battle sizes, but generals can now include more Uncommon warriors in their hosts than before. The Muster Rules will not be printed, please remember; they will always be available for download and will always be living rules.
The Fomoraic and Angelcynn - and now the Brythoniaid - include new profiles for the miniatures from Darklands: First Edition and bear in mind that these new profiles are only partially playtested - expect changes and feel free to give us feedback on the Mierce forums , so check them out for some awesome new warriors!
Templates We have good news - the 4" Fire Spray Template is now available and will be sent with remaining items to anybody who ordered a Dyndraig Starter Set next week. Here's an image of one in action: The 4" Fire spray template in action There are other templates being produced, a list of which is below, but it must be noted that none of these will be sent to anybody for free, and none of them will be included with a miniature when it is bought.
If you wish to use these templates in Darklands, you must purchase them! Remember, if you've ordered a Dyndraig Starter Set from this project, you'll get a 4" Fire Spray Template sent to you for free! It seems to come around more quickly every week This Friday we have the usual work in progress images of miniatures for you, news of project fulfilment and of the next project; but we also have warrior profiles for miniatures produced by this project and news of the encounter hosts and skirmish hosts and battle hosts Idruaada, Warlock Lord of Baalor Gauthier Giroud is a totally new sculptor to the Mierce Miniatures range but it's almost as if he's always been with us.
See Warhammer 40k for what I would rather not happen. In one of the forums or other, the statement was made that Mierce would be turning to quarterly KS campaigns with smaller targets. I'd like more info on that direction as well as if its going to be a role specific every faction gets mounted troops or faction specific we complete Kthones this campaign. I've gone in on most of the campaigns for new units of 2 factions New Kindreds got me for a 3rd and Id like to know if there is a planned end state for each faction?
By end state I mean, there are X more units planned for Y faction then we have no plans for new things. Or will Darklands always have a new shiny unit for each Kindred in each new KS campaign? Vhalan wrote: I agree that the rules being kicked out is concerning but I would rather they take the time for a tight, solid rules set that can stand without FAQ, Errata, or Revision for several years. Vhalan wrote: In one of the forums or other, the statement was made that Mierce would be turning to quarterly KS campaigns with smaller targets.
Vhalan wrote: I've gone in on most of the campaigns for new units of 2 factions New Kindreds got me for a 3rd and Id like to know if there is a planned end state for each faction? Re: Future of the game Post by Vhalan » Tue Jan 27, pm Well, it's doubtful we'll do any Darklands projects this year, but we'll see; Tim's running the other, more generic fantasy ones but I am not doing any more Darklands projects until the rules are out.
If I do, though, it would be role specific next, with missile troops and cavalry getting the treatment first. Darklands will have a shiny unit for each kindred my friend. We don't go down the exclusive route - we will always have something for everyone in each project!
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Maybe next campaign when all the factions are fleshed out. Devon, UK. We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense! Shadeglass Maze. When will the rulebook come out?
The art is great and that will really help bring the world together. Heh, I just had a quick Google, I do like that one can do that with Darklands. So, Ys, the city, appears to be based off the coast of modern France and a hybrid of the Sodom and Gomorra and Atlantean stories, at least superficially?
That's pretty cool actually. I find it hilarious that the "Quick start" rulebook is 87 pages long. I will not lie the rules are very intimidating. I got my "Quick Start" book and am very hesitant in trying to introduce it to my gaming group.
Heck a lot of them left 40k and went to Warmahordes for more streamlined rules. The models though are really second to none. RiTides wrote: When will the rulebook come out?
Now, before we get onto the next project, a word on the Darklands: First Edition hardback rulebook. We've decided to put back the printing of the rulebook to February There's a number of good reasons for doing this, but the main reason is simply so that we can playtest more and also include extra stuff - and so increase the value of what you're getting!
This extra stuff will include whatever we need for the miniatures produced by Darklands: First Edition II and Darklands: New Kindreds such as muster summaries, or perhaps new rules to cover the abilities of new creatures where required , more background material, more colour artwork Please note, the printing delay will NOT affect the delivery of: miniatures slated for delivery in Wave 1 miniatures tied to the book itself such as Uhtred or Finnan However, please note that the rules won't be ready for August as a PDF download.
We are now looking at the end of November for this, in time for Christmas We'll also ship the rulebook to you when it's available without tying it to a Wave - it's only fair to do so! Now, we're aware a lot of you guys and gals out there were very keen to get your hands on the book when - let's face it - we said we'd deliver it; but we hope you understand that we simply want to make that book better for you.
Similarly, we're going to delay the printing of the Darklands Concept Art book to next year. The main reason for this is very simple - we want to add as much art as we can to it, so we're going to include all the art seen in Darklands: First Edition II and Darklands: New Kindreds.
Again, we understand that you guys would want the book in June; but we just want to give you more for the same amount of money! Cincinnati, Ohio. Thanks for your comments everyone especially you cincy!! Rules presentation will be much better in the full rules, with examples in graphical form everywhere; the QS rules are comprehensive The game itself flows brilliantly, in my not so humble opinion Try it for yourself!
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